Philmont Training Center -- Part III, Parking, Trading Post, Others.


See also:
  1. Part I: Registration and Program Decisions
  2. Part II: Chicas Program
  3. Part III: Parking, Trading Post, Others
  4. Part IV: Boy Scout Program
  5. Part V: Senores
  6. Part VI: The Classes
  7. Part VII: The Staff

Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:21:32 -0700
From: "Donald S. Roberts" <don@hummellawfirm.com>
Subject: [Philmont]: PTC Experience - Part III, Parking, Trading Post, Others.
Just a brief section on parking. The word is inadequate. We were fortunate to be there during relationship week, so all our cars fit. I am informed this is the lightest week at PTC, and that usually there are five times as many family members. The relationship and fellowship classes tended toward older scouters, so whereas the prior week had 39 Los Jovenes, this week had 12. It is my understanding the other groups were similarly smaller.

The parking over at CHQ is adequate, and that is where you go for overflow. IT is about a 10-15 minute walk. There is plenty of time to visit Tooth of Time traders throughout the week. The 10 minute walk and shopping can be easily accomplished between end of session and lunch (or end of lunch and afternoon session, depending which lunch you are in). Sunday the trading post was a zoo, and it can be a zoo anytime a number of treks come in (and new treks arrive). So long as you are outside those times, however, it isn't that busy. It makes a good lunchtime or dinnertime walk. Since TOTT opens at 7:30, an after breakfast walk also works well.

The above is a problem. Frequent visits to TOTT means frequent purchases, and that budget can get shoved aside. I know we spent far more than we intended. TOTT does *not* put all its patches on display, and the handicraft center and Seton Library both sell some patches not available at TOTT. If you hike the Urraca trail, you would especially want to check out the handicraft center patches. TOTT will not sell PTC participants the arrowhead (of course), but there seem to be few other restrictions. We were told that we qualify to wear the bull on our shoulders. TOTT really has reasonable prices, at least not as outrageous as can be found in other venues I've visited.

The handicraft lodge is two buildings over from the laundry. They sell detergent packages at the handicraft lodge for the laundry. So if you plan on doing laundry (family day Wednesday is a perfect time), be sure to get to the handicraft lodge when it is open to get detergent if you don't bring your own. Washers are 50 cents, driers are 25 cents for ten minutes. I did two washer loads (quite full, small front loaders) and combined them in one drier for which I did three 10 minute runs (75 cents) and everything was dry. That's also a good time to go to the handicraft lodge to buy your patches :-) This complex of buildings is sort of located between east and south tent city, by the campfire arena.

One thing that was not mentioned until our last day there, is that the trekkers have an opening campfire every night at 8:15 at their campfire arena behind the Seton library. It's a short walk south from PTC on the same side of the road. They do an in character history of the area and a PowerPoint presentation. If there is an evening program at PTC you are not interested in (such as Sunday night), you may want to go over there to see what they do. There is also a closing of trek campfire every night on the West side of CHQ, where the treks are given their awards, though I don't know if that would be particularly interesting.

Villa Philmonte has tours every half hour. Each of the programs, Chicas, Boy Scouts, Senores, etc. did a tour. Some interesting stuff in the photo gallery. Easily accessible.

The Philmont Museum/Seton Library has a small gift shop (Indian trading post type stuff), the library, art by Seton (he was gifted), and currently a display on the evolution of the backpack (that needs an interpretive curator). Makes a good short visit on the way to/from the trading post. Don't plan on needing more than 20 minutes there...

Rayado (Kit Carson Museum) is an interpretive center of a trading post on the Santa Fe Trail. Nice for a short visit, most of the programs go there as well. As a West Fellowship participant, we had a special buffalo steak dinner there with Keith Calloway (just us six and our faculty). Very nice, and a great dinner. For those that don't know, Keith is the big boss for BSA's high adventure camps. He is in charge of Philmont, Sea Base and Northern Tier. Everybody else reports to him.

Regards
Don


See also:
  1. Part I: Registration and Program Decisions
  2. Part II: Chicas Program
  3. Part III: Parking, Trading Post, Others
  4. Part IV: Boy Scout Program
  5. Part V: Senores
  6. Part VI: The Classes
  7. Part VII: The Staff

See also:

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